Pedestrianise Queens Road. The Triangle.

The proportionate value of the commercial  property in Queens road has fallen in recent years - and especially so in the middle section of the triangle. The reason is the difficulty in crossing the road. Pedestrianisation always adds value. With the recent addition of eating spaces in the area remodeling the Triangle would transform this space.

Why the contribution is important

This area should be Bristol's prime shopping area.

by user413272 on November 19, 2013 at 08:55PM

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  • Posted by user881870 November 20, 2013 at 11:33

    Same old story. Just wait until you have to rush your child to the BRI - and having to take the long way round, negotiating clogged-up back-streets!

  • Posted by user952345 November 20, 2013 at 15:53

    A nice idea in principle, but it's one of the two arterial routes from North Bristol to the centre, the BRI and the bus station. All the traffic would end up winding its way around residential streets and the student-clogged Woodland Road area instead.

    Also, pedestrianising the triangle would, almost by default, pedestrianise Park Street as well. If the value of commercial property (and hence the rents) in this area increased, might we just end up with an extension of Broadmead, full of generic high street chain shops?

  • Posted by user924182 November 21, 2013 at 12:10

    The Bristol Cycling Campaign likes this idea, here's how it could be done:
    http://wheelsonthebike.wordpress.com/[…]/

    Traffic flow is retained, and creates a really nice pleasant area to shop and cycle.

  • Posted by user222727 November 21, 2013 at 12:16

    I like this idea, I don't think the plans I've seen circulating as a suggestion cut the traffic off too badly, and I'm not entirely sure how this affects routes to the BRI or bus station since the roads from Cotham Hill area over St Michaels Hill are just as suitable for flows of traffic. Obviously pedestrianisation shouldn't take place without a wider traffic strategy, simply saying things work as they currently do for access to the BRI doesn't mean another solution isn't possible, nor that driving down "clogged student streets" is the only solution possible.

  • Posted by user995535 November 21, 2013 at 14:34

    The idea would be to make the other side of the triangle a 2-way road, so no need for back street routes. It could work and if, as suggested below, it is done with temporary materials then you just put it back the way it was if it doesn't work. Got to be worth a try!

    http://wheelsonthebike.wordpress.com/[…]/

  • Posted by user280744 November 22, 2013 at 15:57

    An excellent idea: The elimination of cars in city centers is paramount - read the work of Jan Gelh

    http://www.amazon.com/Cities-People-Jan-Gehl/dp/159726573X

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL_RYm8zs28

  • Posted by user281185 November 23, 2013 at 08:56

    Agree with the sentiment of the OP. Removing traffic from the city centre and surrounding areas will make the city a better place.

    Re access to the BRI - you wouldn't rush your child to the BRI if access was limited you would go to the hospitals designed to fit in with the transport links.

    Re diverting the traffic somewhere else. The whole point is to discourage traffic.

  • Posted by user734334 November 24, 2013 at 10:54

    I'm convinced! Great idea.

  • Posted by user133575 November 25, 2013 at 11:01

    Just the addition of the lights at the top of Jacobs Wells Road have cause significant delays to traffic coming up Park Street and Park Row.

    Ignoring the idea that we completely pedestrianise the Triangle, which would be ridiculous, even reserving just Queens Road for pedestrians would cause gridlock.

    While, in principal, we would all like to see less traffic, simply saying 'no traffic here' is not an answer. The issues are wider and the needs of all parties need to be assessed.

  • Posted by user563645 November 25, 2013 at 18:09

    'Re access to the BRI - you wouldn't rush your child to the BRI if access was limited you would go to the hospitals designed to fit in with the transport links.

    Re diverting the traffic somewhere else. The whole point is to discourage traffic'

    Sorry, am I misunderstanding, are you saying that you should not use the Children's Hospital because you want to discourage traffic in the vicinity? A lot of children's services are being moved from the other hospitals to the children's, so you may not have a choice which hospital to use!

    As for your second point- discouraging traffic- who is going to support these shops on the triangle if you can't get to them easily? There is also a limit as to what you can carry on the back of your cycle. You will lose trade to on-line retailers and Cribbs if you push the anti-car agenda too far. Are there really enough cyclists to support entire shopping areas once you have 'discouraged cars'? Barryharvey is right 'simply saying 'no traffic here' is not an answer. The issues are wider and the needs of all parties need to be assessed.'

  • Posted by user251846 November 29, 2013 at 14:02

    Nice idea. as for the critics - traffic is like water to rocks, close off one avenue another will emerge and after a while no-one will notice the difference. This could/should be done elsewhere in the city (The Centre, or part thereof), with the proviso that such area are strictly for pedestrians.

  • Posted by user197097 November 30, 2013 at 21:38

    Even if 100% pedestrianisation doesn't happen, much could be done to reduce traffic dominance in this area. For example, if Triangle W became 2 way, traffic on Queens Road would reduce by approx 25% and space/crossing points for pedestrian could be increased.

  • Posted by user780791 December 03, 2013 at 16:30

    Seems like an immense amount of effort to make a few shops more accessible to bikes/less accessible to cars. It also appears as if vested interests spurred the OP. That said I agree with the sentiment of increased pedestrianisation - but we do already have a lot of pedestrianised areas in Bristol - millenium square, the central fountains and Broadmead. Not convinced this is workable or worthy given the potential costs.

  • Posted by user122507 December 20, 2013 at 18:53

    This is an excellent idea. As other posters have said, getting traffic out of the city centre is paramount. Who wants to shop in a fume-filled gully? Not me! If one side of the Triangle was pedestrianised & people could walk safely around the shops and restaurants it would be a much more pleasant experience than it is at present.
    And if people didn't store private property (cars) on the public road there wouldn't be any problems getting to the Children's Hospital.

  • Posted by user261867 January 03, 2014 at 21:51

    I think this idea has much to commend it as the area is not currently a pleasant walking, shopping area
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